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Re: who sets impeller speed??
Reply #15 Jan 9, 2010 2:06 pm |
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Overkill on my part.... I am rural so throwing distance too far isn't an issue. It's more a "sleeper" competition with a guy down my road with the HS1132TAS. :-) He'll probably still throw further but I thought I'd give it a shot with a few bucks. Great explanation Borat. I agree with you completely. For residential use, all of the 2 stage throw more than adequate distance. There's no need for me to throw snow 50+ feet on my property, but it is fun to do it once in awhile. Typically, 20-30 feet is what I usually aim for. While throwing distance is not comparable to today's machines, the older 2 stage machines seems to perform well with their modest horsepower. They are definitely geared lower and they make use of available torque. They dive into end of drive piles and chew up that snow fairly well.
To answer mikiewest original question, I think Honda are designed to be used in rural area with large open space. Therefore, distance is more important so that you don't have to throw the same snow over again. I also noticed that it also has tighter stream of snow for less dispersion over long distance. Because of the higher impeller rotation speed, this may also helps with dealing with slush, especially the almost liquid kind. Not trying to brag but Honda was built to satisfy different performance requirements. Given same hp rating, there's a compromise in volume to achieve longer distance.
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Re: who sets impeller speed??
Reply #20 Jan 9, 2010 4:24 pm |
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That says it all-The ability to throw great distances is not desirable where houses are set close together or in urban settings like New York City where the Sanitation Dept. will give you a Summons for blowing snow into the street. In addition you can't get something for nothing. If you adjust the size ratio of the pulley system to increase the rpm of the fan then under load you are going to need more HP to take advantage of the distance potential of the new pulley size. If they achieve a 30% increase with the same HP engine the unit must be over designed to begin with. I wonder what happens when you hit the EOD with the high speed set up. If the available hp is now being used to achieve high fan speed I don't think the end of driveway performance in plow packed conditions would be as good. Marc Last year when I was blowing 2-3 feet it seemed liked engine still had more to give. Of course pushing it beyond designed limits may make something else break. I only use this thrower 6-12 times during winter so hopefully it won't cut into longevity too bad. I'm a stickler for looking over my equipment after each use though.
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aa335
 
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Re: who sets impeller speed??
Reply #21 Jan 9, 2010 4:49 pm |
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I figure if I could get it to throw further and he asked I would tell him it was stock :-) :-) Does this guy live in your neighborhood?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHNLbAW6j7kYes of course it's stock. He had his snowblower in valet mode and using winter gas. Still breaking in his engine with dino oil. Plus, the deflector was stuck. :)
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GtWtNorth
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Re: who sets impeller speed??
Reply #24 Jan 9, 2010 5:10 pm |
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I've been reading a lot about this subject here & would like to add my 2 cents. Since I am only a second year user, I am concentrating on understanding how to use my MTD 8-24 machine and it's limits. I have already re-powered up from 5 to 8 hp but I'm still not happy with the distance in general & specially for EOD. I have to take small slices to ensure it doesn't choke itself & bog right down. I have been considering impeller design among other thing as a cause. I noticed that my impeller has a large hook or hockey stick at the leading edge of the impeller (see photo). I postulate that this causes the machine to pull too much snow into the impeller too fast & helps cause the bogging.  If you look at some of the photos of other impellers a lot seem to have smaller hooks (except Simplicity). Also the better machines seem to have heavier more substantial impellers in general. I'm thinking that like a car flywheel, the heavier impellers also help to keep up the speed of the impeller as you move through heavier or deeper snow. Any thoughts? left to right top, John Deere, Simplicity, Murray, Bottom: Toro, older Ariens, Craftsman ( they are all for 24 & 26" machines) 
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