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Why are Honda snowblowers so expensive?
Original Message   Dec 24, 2009 9:23 am
I was at a local Honda dealer yesterday and I was stunned by the prices on their snowblowers. In Canadian dollars, they were: 928 wheels: $3000 928 track: $3400 724 track: $3400 1132 track: $3500 I know they have tracks, hydro tranny, honda engines, etc. but they're at least $1000-1500 more than equivalent toro and ariens models. Is it gold, they re making?
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borat


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Re: Why are Honda snowblowers so expensive?
Reply #155   Dec 26, 2010 9:39 am
I noticed that some of these Yamaha models have plastic liners in the chute and even the impeller housing!  

I put a plastic liner in my Simplicity chute when I bought it new in 2007 and it's been working great.  Never get snow sticking to it and it's wearing very well.  It looks like it's good for ten years at least, if not more.  I'm going to have to take a look at lining the impeller housing with the same stuff.  That however, will be much more critical and likely difficult.  That's the last place you want to wad up a sheet of tough plastic.
aa335


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Re: Why are Honda snowblowers so expensive?
Reply #156   Dec 26, 2010 6:19 pm
borat wrote:
Never get snow sticking to it and it's wearing very well. 

I was tempted to line my chute with this slippery plastic too.  However, the only time I notice snow sticking is when I stop blowing.  Otherwise, there's enough velocity and distance in stock form to move the sticky snow from the chute.

Anyways, it must have some performance improvement since Toro 2 stage unit has the plastic chute and impeller housing.  That Powermax housing must be non-stick for it to work.
snowmachine


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Re: Why are Honda snowblowers so expensive?
Reply #157   Dec 26, 2010 6:37 pm

What kind of plastic did you use for your liner?

borat wrote:
I noticed that some of these Yamaha models have plastic liners in the chute and even the impeller housing!  

I put a plastic liner in my Simplicity chute when I bought it new in 2007 and it's been working great.  Never get snow sticking to it and it's wearing very well.  It looks like it's good for ten years at least, if not more.  I'm going to have to take a look at lining the impeller housing with the same stuff.  That however, will be much more critical and likely difficult.  That's the last place you want to wad up a sheet of tough plastic.
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borat


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Re: Why are Honda snowblowers so expensive?
Reply #158   Dec 27, 2010 9:33 am
I used a piece of Wacky Karpet/Krazy Carpet or some goofy name like that. 

It's a piece of plastic that textured on the back and very slick on the bottom.  It's a kid's toy used for sliding down hills in the winter.  Cost about $8.00 and can be found at places like Walmart and Canadian Tire.  Possibly elsewhere that winter outdoor sleds/toys are sold.  It's tough stuff and easy to work with.

I didn't line my chute to improve snow throwing distance, although, I'm pretty sure it does.  I lined the chute to keep winter control material (gravel/sand/salt) etc. from stripping the paint.  It's a bit of a job to measure, cut and install, but once it's done, it will last a long time.  If a second liner ever needs to be made/installed, it will be much easier to do because the first liner can be used as a template.   I also added a thin piece of stainless steel plate to protect the deflector. 



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snowmachine


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Re: Why are Honda snowblowers so expensive?
Reply #159   Dec 27, 2010 12:12 pm
Nice.   That might be in my future mod list.

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borat


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Re: Why are Honda snowblowers so expensive?
Reply #160   Dec 27, 2010 12:13 pm
snowmachine wrote:
Has anyone seen the new Yamaha's close up? IMO they visually appear more stout than the Hondas. Of course I'd have to drive up to BC to buy one but that isn't that far from me. I was trying to see if their axle was locked like the Hondas or if they had some form of steering on the lower end models. I'll look around... I think there may have been some discussion last year on them,

I might have to buy a Yamaha just to put a "smack down" on the Honda blow-hards!!!
tkrotchko


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Re: Why are Honda snowblowers so expensive?
Reply #161   Dec 27, 2010 12:14 pm
borat wrote:
I used a piece of Wacky Karpet/Krazy Carpet or some goofy name like that. 


What did you use to fasten it to the chute?
borat


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Re: Why are Honda snowblowers so expensive?
Reply #162   Dec 27, 2010 12:18 pm
The chute had two small hole at the bottom front.  I used those with a rivet/screw.  At the top, I used the bolt hole and bolt that controls the arc of the deflector.  That's all it needs to hold it firmly in place. 
aa335


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Re: Why are Honda snowblowers so expensive?
Reply #163   Dec 27, 2010 1:39 pm
borat wrote:
I might have to buy a Yamaha just to put a "smack down" on the Honda blow-hards!!!

If you can't beat them, join them.  :)

Besides the differences in paint, they do have common design philosophy.  I'm not talking about reasonable prices, tough cast iron gearboxes, and C channel handlebars.  :)

Please do get one.  I wouldn't mind Honda getting some competition so they can get back on the ball.  It's lonely at the top. 
borat


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Re: Why are Honda snowblowers so expensive?
Reply #164   Dec 27, 2010 2:24 pm
aa335 wrote:
If you can't beat them, join them.  :)

Besides the differences in paint, they do have common design philosophy.  I'm not talking about reasonable prices, tough cast iron gearboxes, and C channel handlebars.  :)

Please do get one.  I wouldn't mind Honda getting some competition so they can get back on the ball.  It's lonely at the top. 


If you can't beat them? 

By the looks of the Yamaha, I would doubt that there would be too much of an issue "beating" a Honda.    The Yamaha appears to out-class the Honda in every aspect. 

Problem is that the Simplicity is such a joy to own and use, it would be difficult to give it up and I doubt it will be crapping out within then next twenty years or so. 

In addition to that, I'd have to relax my fiscal discipline to indulge in such frivolous spending.  However, that would be easier to do than waiting for the Simplicity to expire.  

In the meantime, I'll keep my vanity in check and go with what I have. 
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