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Underdog


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Compression Test: Am I doing this right?
Original Message   Feb 17, 2009 8:01 am
I borrowed a  pressure tester from the local auto parts store and tried testing the compression on this Yamaha 8hp snowblower engine.
I opened the choke and set the throttle to full open.  But I'm confused.
When I tested by pulling the recoil starter just through one cylinder of compression I got one reading ( 47 psi  ):


Then when I pulled the recoil starter cord fully (like you would to start the engine) I got another reading (72 psi  ):


Then when I plugged in the electric strarter and really spun the engine over I got a third reading  ( 100 psi  ):


I  repeated each of these tests several times and always got the same results (pretty much). Could I be doing something wrong?  So which one am I supposed to be looking at?

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friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
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Re: Compression Test: Am I doing this right?
Reply #6   Feb 17, 2009 9:30 am
The if your engine has that much cabon it has other problems  (oil burning/ smoking)...  I would not tear off the head yet... I would check the vavle clearance first...  If the engine has preignition (knock and pinging) it is fighting itself buy buring fuel before top dead center..

Friiy

Underdog


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Re: Compression Test: Am I doing this right?
Reply #7   Feb 17, 2009 10:14 am
Thank you.  Is this task "checking  valve clearance" reasonably straight forward?  Any rare or unussual or expensive tools required?  My manual provided me with this guidance:

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borat


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Re: Compression Test: Am I doing this right?
Reply #8   Feb 17, 2009 8:55 pm
You'll need a feeler gauge.  A good set is less than ten bucks. 

You say the engine vibrates a lot while idling.  I'd check the motor mounts.  If your compression is as high as you say it's reading and you don't have a problem with pre-ignition (pinging - particularly under load) I wouldn't be too worried about it.  Did you do the compression test with a cold engine?   The correct method, is cold engine and crank until the gauge no longer reads further increases.   

Underdog


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Re: Compression Test: Am I doing this right?
Reply #9   Feb 17, 2009 9:07 pm
borat wrote:
  Did you do the compression test with a cold engine?   The correct method, is cold engine and crank until the gauge no longer reads further increases.   

No, I did not do the test with a cold engine. The manual (see above) specifically said to warm the engine up first.   So I did that. I ran it for roughly five minutes. The spark plug was hot when I pulled it out to put the gauge in.  I really truly thought the compression test was going to give me a reading in the low 30's.   I'm still in shock/denial.  

borat


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Re: Compression Test: Am I doing this right?
Reply #10   Feb 17, 2009 11:57 pm
Well, that's a first for me. 

Everything I've read about compression testing has always been with a cold engine. 

friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
Joined: Apr 12, 2008
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Re: Compression Test: Am I doing this right?
Reply #11   Feb 23, 2009 12:57 pm
Did you check  your belts to see if they have any shape formed in them...   A belt if it sits in one place for a long time is will harden in a set position...  Kinda like when you park a  car or a motorhome for a couple of years in one spot..  If you start it up and drive it away,   it will rattle and shake because the tires have formed  flat spots.  The same can happen to a belt or a rubber fuel hose.  A belt or two with this setting in the rubber will shake the idler pullys and vibrate / rock the machine.

How old are your belts?   And how long have they been sitting before a bought the " non-running "  Yamaha?

If you take the belts off,  does the engine run smoother,   or have less vibration?

Just an Idea,

Friiy

P.S.   It almost time to till your garden with the BSC

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Underdog


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Re: Compression Test: Am I doing this right?
Reply #12   Feb 24, 2009 1:27 pm
friiy wrote:
Did you check  your belts

P.S.   It almost time to till your garden with the BSC


I did take the cover off that conceals the belts yesterday.  I looked around in there. (The cover is still off) I was reading up on the snowblower's manual trying to determine if the tension is adjusted correctly on the belts.  I have had the belts off completely before.  I compared the old belts to a set of new unused ones that previous owner had supplied along with some other parts.    The belts look good and match the original replacement part number.  I am not sure about the tension on the belts.  There is some slack but I have not figured out how to move the clutch wire.   As for rototilling, we have a long long long way to go.  The only hints of spring here are frost heaves and pot holes.  You are spoiled out there.

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