Outdoor Power Equipment (Lawn Mowers, Snow Blowers, Chain Saws and more) Discussions

Does anyone have any feedback or experience with the Ariens 722 single stage snow blower?   Not so much how it compares to a 2 stage snow blower but mainly how it compares to other single stage machines.  Also snows that it handles best and snows that push it's limits.  Thanks.

Yes, thanks for the feedback.  Assuming that the belt was tensioned correctly on the Ariens the difference probably is in the paddle design.  It appears that the Ariens paddle was designed to capture more snow that the Toro's paddles.  That might explain why heavy icy shush might bog it down if the paddles are slowed by trying to handle too much of a load.

aa335 wrote:

i would agree, the build quality of the ariens was as good or even superior in terms of materials i.e plasitcs used in the main body of the machine seemed more durable than the toro. if you hang out on the other forum then yes you know i also have a ccr2000 and older 826 2 stage.  i picked up a couple ccr2k machines this year as i've always heard good things about the suzuki engines.  i fixed them both up with new paddles, carb clean etc. and have sold one and kept one for myself as a back up to the 2450.  i havn't had the opportunity to test it out due to the lack of new snow but the engine runs great, starts up on the first pull every time. i suspect it will work as well as the 2450, but we'll see.

Paul7 wrote:

thats the only variable that i could not confirm was belt tension.  having said this, since new the machine never liked the wet stuff and it was bought from a dealer...vs big box, so i'm assuming it was set up properly. i was going to tinker around with it before i sold, but it was basically sold within a few minutes of advertising.  your theory  may be right on the paddle design...all i know is i understand why all the contracters use toro single stage machines and also i remember when i was shopping around 3 years ago and one OPE dealer swore the smaller 5hp toro outperformed the 7hp ariens...i should have listened.

At work here we had a 3 hp. toro that we used for a long time, then replaced it with a 5 hp. and now we have the 6.5 hp. model and I have to say that 5 hp. I think worked harder than the 6.5 that we have now. We use it on heavier stuff than we should sometimes and those machines have stood up well. I haven't used an ariens single stage though so I can't compare them that way.


Coldfingers

Coldfingers wrote:

if its the 3650 you are referring to, i find that surprising that the 5hp or 2450 worked better.  i've heard nothing but good things about both machines...the 2450 and 3650.

seabird wrote:
What's the difference between the 2450 and 3650 besides the HP rating? 

aa335 wrote:

i believe the 3650 has a manual chute control.

The 5 hp. that we had had a lever on the chute so you just leaned over and turned it by grabbing it, the 3650 or 6.5 hp has a rod that comes out of the housing and runs up to the handlebar like a two stage does. Problem is sometimes the chute on the 3650 gets stuck and you think you are going to break the rod off trying to free it. In other words, the 5 hp. was much easier and more trouble free with that design. I looked at the new toros out this year and see they have a cable running to a plastic handle to turn the chute with and I can't help but wonder how that will stand up. They all have a "20" inch throat and are pretty much the same otherwise I think.

seabird wrote:
Funny you should mention the Toro with the Suzuki engines.  I've recently have taken interest with those engines and would also like to pick up a used Toro to fix up over the spring/summer season.  Would you happen to know which models/year of Toro that has the Suzuki engines?  The new Toro are either Tecumseh or Toro's own engines.  I'm not sure how good is the Tecumseh 98cc engine that's on the Powerlites

i don't know the definitive dates and models but i believe the ccr1000/2000/3000 series and possibly a few other of the ccr models prior to the 2450/3650/snow commander had zuki engines.  these were made from the late 80's to mid 90's i think.  i havn't googled but i would be interested to know as well.  from what i understand the ccr2000 in particular with the 4.5 zuki engine was basically replaced by the 2450 with the toro rtek 5hp engine. i've heard that the hp rating on the zuki is under rated in this case is a stronger engine.  i was also told that the new toro single stage machines are fitted with plastic carbs and can be finiky sp?..but are cheap to replace at only 30-40 bucks. good luck and if you find out more on the zuki engine dates, please post them up.