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dfvellone


Joined: Jan 10, 2009
Points: 20

help with alternative to hs 1132
Original Message   Jan 15, 2009 12:01 pm
I know the question of snowblower suggestions gets asked a lot but...

If I do decide to definitely shop for a replacement for my hs1132 what models should I look at in terms of the features for my conditions;

-long driveway (1000' just in length)
-lots of snowfall (western adirondack snowbelt area) some dry and light, some wet and heavy.
-deep cold, and the blower is in an unheated space

-ease of turning.  I   want something that my wife can operate in terms of ease of turning. We do considerable clearing around the house - paths to the woodshed, utility shed, walkways around the house, and walkways around farm buildings

I bought the honda because of my experience with honda equipment and their reliability. I  was willing to pay the big price tag because I figured I'd be buying a machine that would last as long as I'd need it.
Who is at that same level of reliability and longevity?

I do have a husqvarna dealer nearby and I've used their saws for commercial heavy use for years with no complaint and only praise. Does this quality extend to their blower line?

And lastly, are the tracks that advantageous that their difficulty in manuvering is worth it?

A lot of demands to consider but snowclearing is a big part of our 5 months here. I appreciate the help!
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Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
Points: 354

Re: help with alternative to hs 1132
Reply #14   Jan 17, 2009 1:21 am
aa335 wrote:

Tracked snowblowers are painfully slow for that long of a driveway. 

I don't understand this, why would a tracked blower be slower than a wheeled blower? In my mind, the depth/weight of the snow is the limiting factor on how fast you can go. In light snow you just upshift. My tracked blower in its highest gear is almost too fast to keep up with.

Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
Coldfingers


Joined: Nov 20, 2008
Points: 84

Re: help with alternative to hs 1132
Reply #15   Jan 17, 2009 11:08 am
Bill I guess tracked snowblowers are geared 40% slower than comparable wheel drive snowblowers to compensate for the extra power needed to drive the tracks. I have an ariens 9526 dlet track drive snowblower and it is slower than the wheeled one I replaced it with. It does however have added traction to go through the harder packed snowdrift without spinning. I notice it most when I back up, going forward in a higher gear still is fast enough for me and then in first it barely crawls along but doesn't get overpowered as you are going slow.

Coldfingers
Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
Points: 354

Re: help with alternative to hs 1132
Reply #16   Jan 17, 2009 10:37 pm
Are they actually geared lower than the same unit with wheels, or is it because the drive wheel is a smaller diameter? Same result, though.
I can see there being a difference in reverse, but not forward as there is quite a lot of gearing available.

Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
pvrp


Joined: Nov 14, 2008
Points: 151

Re: help with alternative to hs 1132
Reply #17   Jan 17, 2009 11:40 pm
Bill_H wrote:
Are they actually geared lower than the same unit with wheels, or is it because the drive wheel is a smaller diameter? Same result, though.
I can see there being a difference in reverse, but not forward as there is quite a lot of gearing available.

Speaking only for the Ariens the lower gearing is because the wheel/sprocket thing that drives the
tracks is so much smaller in diameter than the wheels on the wheeled machines.  Everything else
(apart from the axles and differential) is probably identical, which is why the wheeled ones go too
fast in 1st.

Paul
nhmatt


Joined: Dec 21, 2008
Points: 104

Re: help with alternative to hs 1132
Reply #18   Jan 18, 2009 8:52 am
Bill_H wrote:
I don't understand this, why would a tracked blower be slower than a wheeled blower? In my mind, the depth/weight of the snow is the limiting factor on how fast you can go. In light snow you just upshift. My tracked blower in its highest gear is almost too fast to keep up with.

The track setup on my Honda 1132 is slower than my old 928 wheeled Honda.   The diameter of the wheels are larger than the height of the trac, and I'm sure its the same trans, ect.  The same revolutions just doesn't cover the same ground.  Now, does it go as fast in snow?  You betcha!
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: help with alternative to hs 1132
Reply #19   Jan 18, 2009 11:19 am
Bill_H wrote:
I don't understand this, why would a tracked blower be slower than a wheeled blower? In my mind, the depth/weight of the snow is the limiting factor on how fast you can go. In light snow you just upshift. My tracked blower in its highest gear is almost too fast to keep up with.

In most instances, you are correct.  On heavier snow, track speed versus wheel is insignificant.  Both will be driving at similiar ground speed to prevent over driving and spilling snow to the side or plowing snow ahead. 

In light fluffy snow up to 5 inches, max speed is a little slow.   I wouldn't mind a bit faster because the auger/impeller has no problem digesting that kind of snow volume.

This message was modified Jan 18, 2009 by aa335
Coldfingers


Joined: Nov 20, 2008
Points: 84

Re: help with alternative to hs 1132
Reply #20   Jan 18, 2009 2:05 pm
I think everyone explained this very well. When I bought my new track drive ariens this fall the dealer did say that if the snow is light and fluffy you will wish you could go faster through it, he was right. I do have a 520 single stage honda that I was going to sell but have kept it for just this reason, when I get light snow falls that are more than what you want to clear with a shovel I take out the single stage unit and you can go as fast as you want to pushing that. I know its maybe over kill having two machines and my wife mentions that every once in awhile, ha!, but I figure between the two of them that I'm set hopefully for a long time to come.

Coldfingers

Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
Points: 354

Re: help with alternative to hs 1132
Reply #21   Jan 18, 2009 4:13 pm
aa335 wrote:
In most instances, you are correct.  On heavier snow, track speed versus wheel is insignificant.  Both will be driving at similiar ground speed to prevent over driving and spilling snow to the side or plowing snow ahead. 

In light fluffy snow up to 5 inches, max speed is a little slow.   I wouldn't mind a bit faster because the auger/impeller has no problem digesting that kind of snow volume.


OK, now it all makes sense, thanks. Looks like it's just a difference between brands.

My tracked machine has a really high gear that is almost too fast to use since you're walking so fast. I only use it when I finish at the bottom of the driveway, and put it in transport mode (lifts bucket off the ground about 1.5", also useful for making paths over grass) and run back up to the garage. Must be the way the gearing - I use that term loosely, it's really how far from the center of the friction disk you are -  is set up, since my lowest gear is too slow for almost anything and the highest is too fast for almost anything. I even do EOD in 2nd.

Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: help with alternative to hs 1132
Reply #22   Jan 18, 2009 5:27 pm
Coldfingers wrote:
I think everyone explained this very well. When I bought my new track drive ariens this fall the dealer did say that if the snow is light and fluffy you will wish you could go faster through it, he was right. I do have a 520 single stage honda that I was going to sell but have kept it for just this reason, when I get light snow falls that are more than what you want to clear with a shovel I take out the single stage unit and you can go as fast as you want to pushing that. I know its maybe over kill having two machines and my wife mentions that every once in awhile, ha!, but I figure between the two of them that I'm set hopefully for a long time to come.

Coldfingers


Never sell your good working single stage.  I have just the 1132 now and wish I could add a small nimble one for light snow and for curvy service walkway.
This message was modified Jan 18, 2009 by aa335
Coldfingers


Joined: Nov 20, 2008
Points: 84

Re: help with alternative to hs 1132
Reply #23   Jan 18, 2009 6:17 pm
aa335,  a friend of mine was at a yard sale last fall and bought a 3 hp. toro single stage which looked really nice yet for 25.00 because it was 90 outside and no one would bid on it. Ha! I never go to those things but after hearing that it made me think about it, you never know when you might run across one.

Coldfingers

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