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zekeman


Joined: Dec 30, 2008
Points: 7

NEW HONDA 1132TAS engine/carb problem
Original Message   Dec 30, 2008 4:55 am
Just picked up a new Honda 1132 TAS and I am having a problem with the carb/engine. It seems as though there is only a slight defference between the slow throttle setting and the fast setting. I took the carb cover off and the throttle linkage is moving fine although it will not stay in the upper most fast setting unless I hold it there with the throttle lever so I adjusted(tightened) the locknut on the throttle lever and that seemed to help alot to hold it at fast idle BUT the locknut will keep loosening up as you use the throttle from slow to fast...Also the fast idle surges up and down and as I mentioned the slow and fast difference is not that great, example: As I move the throttle lever slowly from slow to fast there is no noticeable difference(no variable speed of the engine) until I get to fast and even that seems just a bit more than slow, I think possibly the slow idle setting is set too high..This is too bad especially on a new HONDA 3000.00 machine. Anyone have any thoughts?.. I also should mention that I still own my HS828 tracked Honda and the throttle control on that works like a charm from really low to high and anywhere in between.
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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: NEW HONDA 1132TAS engine/carb problem
Reply #3   Dec 30, 2008 10:24 am
I would take it back to the dealer and have them take care of the issue.  No need to mess around with a brand new machine on your own.  That's what the warranty is for.
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: NEW HONDA 1132TAS engine/carb problem
Reply #4   Dec 30, 2008 10:26 am
If the machine is working (moving snow) as intended and there is no loss of performance, is there really an issue?  You have another machine to compare it to.  Does the new machine stack up?   Before you start getting into potential warranty problems, buy an electronic tachometer to see if the engine is running at full throttle which is usually 3600 rpm.  If it is that's good.  Not too sure what the low speed rpm would be on the Honda engine but my 9.5 B&S Snow Max will not run at less than 1600 rpm.  Usually, it begins to stall at around 1650.  So, don't expect a small single cylinder engine to putt along at 800 rpm. 
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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: NEW HONDA 1132TAS engine/carb problem
Reply #5   Dec 30, 2008 10:39 am
mech12 wrote:
if you purchased this new ,  take it back or to a certified honda dealer. once you mess with it the warranty is NO GOOD.  i have had to do this in my shop,  nothing worse than the backyard guy that thinks with a book he can fix anything. i had a new unit come in and he had carb parts in a plastic bag.   he was miffed that he got charged... i voided his warranty.  tough lesson ..... 



What would you do if a customer bought a new machine,  the carb malfunctions, he's a hundred miles from a service depot, is told he'll have to wait three weeks for the machine to get repaired and tries to fix it himself?

In addition to the above, if the customer's carb was defective and he took it apart, brought it to you in pieces in a bag, wouldn't that reduce your time to dis-assemble it?  Also, wouldn't your time to re-assemble the carb be charged out to the manufacturer as part of the warranty program?   Seems to me that voiding a warranty just because someone took something apart isn't right.  If parts are broken or missing due to ham fisted or careless action, sure, void the warranty.  If a guy is stuck  between a rock and a hard place and tries to repair it, is unsuccessful and brings the machine and all related  malfunctioning parts in for service, why void his warranty?  If you don't have to put extra time in to make the fix, the warranty will cover your cost.  Will it not?   

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friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
Joined: Apr 12, 2008
Points: 600

Re: NEW HONDA 1132TAS engine/carb problem
Reply #6   Dec 30, 2008 1:37 pm
If I was the "guy" a hundered miles out...  I would call them to pick It up and tell then the situation,   Than get them to agree for me to take it apartdue to the situation...

Friiy

Also.... I agree the throttle setting has no bearing on what you think it is suppose to do... Check your owners manual and see if it is doing what the MANUAL says it is suppose to do... Make sure you have a real problem...

Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Points: 452

Re: NEW HONDA 1132TAS engine/carb problem
Reply #7   Dec 30, 2008 11:44 pm
I don't understand this whole thread.  It's a Honda...they NEVER break!!!
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: NEW HONDA 1132TAS engine/carb problem
Reply #8   Dec 30, 2008 11:50 pm
Paul7 wrote:
I don't understand this whole thread.  It's a Honda...they NEVER break!!!

There has not been a determination that anything broke, just the described symptoms have been presented and probable failures and diagnostic methods were suggested.

It is possible any snowblower will break, regardless of the brand.  Hondas are not immune to failures, regardless of any expectations.

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Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Points: 452

Re: NEW HONDA 1132TAS engine/carb problem
Reply #9   Dec 31, 2008 1:33 am
I was being sarcastic.  Sorry about that.
zekeman


Joined: Dec 30, 2008
Points: 7

Re: NEW HONDA 1132TAS engine/carb problem
Reply #10   Dec 31, 2008 6:25 am
GOT IT FIXED..I found the 6MM locknut that holds the plastic throttle lever on the control panel was total junk allowing the throttle linkage to barely move at the carb and everytime I would tighten it it would loosen up (unscrew) with only three movements of  the throttle lever. I replaced the 6MM locknut with a 6MM nylok locknut nut and bingo it stays in full throttle now and anywhere in between it was slipping badly with the original broken locknut. Full throttle does still surge or hunt a little bit though so I will be contacting the dealer  for that but it is very minor and I'm not sure if it will do that under a load (I will find out today another 8" of snow) my guess is probably not. Anyway I will be letting the dealer know about the locknut issue and possibly Honda I'm not sure how Honda or the dealer did not catch that seeing that the throttle control did absolutely nothing when I first fired it up. Now I'm ready to see how the 1132 compares to my 12 year old HS828TS.
zekeman


Joined: Dec 30, 2008
Points: 7

Re: NEW HONDA 1132TAS engine/carb problem
Reply #11   Dec 31, 2008 6:28 am
Forgot to mention that Honda parts wanted $4.50 plus $4.00 shipping for the locknut and I paid .50 from my local hardware store..not bad
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: NEW HONDA 1132TAS engine/carb problem
Reply #12   Dec 31, 2008 12:22 pm
zekeman wrote:
Forgot to mention that Honda parts wanted $4.50 plus $4.00 shipping for the locknut and I paid .50 from my local hardware store..not bad

Isn't amazing how much they charge for these little things?  I ordered the shear pins on line but I am getting the 6mm locknut for the shear pin from local hardware store. 
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