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Tubby
Joined: Dec 5, 2007
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New Simplicity 1524E goes kabam!
Original Message Dec 24, 2008 12:31 pm |
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Really let down on this machine. I suppose any machine could have a hiccup though. The first thing I notice is that it always seemed slightly in gear, always wanted to tug a little. It was like this for a couple hours. Today, I was using it, and BANG! Then of course no more forward locomotion. The drive plate sheared right off its axle inside! It looks like it is a press fit, and it walked itself right off. Crap. The banks of the edge of the driveway are already 4 foot tall. I hope they don't charge to pick it up. The 8 year old ariens I sold to get this thing never left me high and dry!
This message was modified Jan 3, 2009 by Tubby
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borat
 
Joined: Nov 10, 2007
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Re: New Simplicity 1524p goes kabam!
Reply #2 Dec 24, 2008 1:32 pm |
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Too bad about that. Is that machine one of their Pro models? Unusual for a Simplicity although certainly not impossible. Sounds like the machine had a problem from the get go if it never fully disengaged the drive system. Could have been an adjustment problem but I doubt it. Probably a manufacturing defect that slipped by quality control. I just got in from giving my Simplicity 9528 a good work out. Chewed through twenty inches of fairly dense snow like a hot knife through butter. I stay on top of adjustments and keep an eye on things mechanical. Not that this machine has ever needed it. So far, I've adjusted the tension on the wheel drive cable. That's it other than oil changes & greasing. Let us know what the service department says about what the cause of failure was. I'd be interested in hearing. Good luck and best of the season to you.
This message was modified Dec 24, 2008 by borat
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mml4
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Deep snow is better!
Joined: Dec 31, 2003
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Re: New Simplicity 1524p goes kabam!
Reply #3 Dec 25, 2008 6:24 am |
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Tubby- Thats the kind of experience that begs the question"Why me?". Those Pro Series Simplicitys are usually bullet proof. In fact I can't remember a post on this forum or any other forum where anybody reported a failure of any kind with a Simplicity since they changed over to Briggs power. That's got to be more than 5 years ago. My son has a 1060 and his experience is the same as Borat's with the 9528---trouble free. As you know every manufacturer will have some component failures and it was your misfortune to get one. It is definitely a waranty issue and it will be taken care of. I know it's easy for me to say but don't give up on your machine. It is as you stated a "hiccup" and in the long run you will be very happy with your choice. At least your problem is easily recognizeable and can be repaired by a simple part replacement. What drives me nuts is those intermitent, phantom, impossible to diagnose issues that sometimes you can never solve. Marc
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sick
Joined: Jan 1, 2009
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Re: New Simplicity 1524p goes kabam!
Reply #5 Jan 1, 2009 1:39 pm |
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HEY Tubby your not alone! I just bought my 1524PRO. in the fall. First snow storm hand warmers don't work. no big deal. But then I get pinned 3 times because drive does not disingage. Then I get knocked down into a snowbank. What the hell did I buy? I call the dealer tell them ,great response The day there supposed to pick up it's supposed to snow so I call up and cancel so I am not with out my brand new 1524P. Guess what now the electric chute does not turn. Out comes the electric Toro and a shovel.Can I return this thing? So I guess you are not the only one out there. Bill
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MacLorry27
Joined: Dec 23, 2008
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Re: New Simplicity 1524p goes kabam!
Reply #7 Jan 1, 2009 5:58 pm |
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Sick, The friction wheel-disk drive system used on the 1524 is such a simple system that it’s rare for it to not disengage when the traction control lever is released. On a new machine the adjustment could be off, but then it should be engaged all the time. Also there are spring that pulls the swing plate away from the friction disk, disengaging the friction wheel, and thus, the drive. If one or more of these springs is broke there might not be enough tension to disengage the drive. Another possibility is operator error. I’m not saying this is true in your case, but it has been known to happen, particularly when a person first gets a new machine. The 1524 has the Easy Turn lever mounted on the left under the handlebar and a new operator might get confused and either pull or release that lever when they want to stop rather than releasing the traction control lever, which is on top of the handlebar. The Easy Turn lever only disengages the right wheel when it’s pulled, so in either position at least the left wheel is engaged. Please don’t be offended. As for the electric chute and hand warmers not working, does the light work? If not, the plug from the wiring harness to the engine may be lose, in which case you have no power for any of these systems. There’s a red wire coming out of the engine near the electric starter that connects to the wiring harness with a small plastic plug. Also, make sure the black ground wire from the wiring harness is connected. This black wire usually goes under one of the engine mounting bolts. If the light works then follow the wiring harness and make sure all plugs are tight. If you have no power and all the wires seem to be ok, then it may be a problem with the alternator built into the engine flywheel. That’s a problem only the dealer can fix on a machine in warranty. Mac
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Tubby
Joined: Dec 5, 2007
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Re: New Simplicity 1524p goes kabam!
Reply #11 Jan 1, 2009 10:46 pm |
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Well, the place I bought it is really tying to help as best they can, they even offered me a loaner. So far, only 5 or 6 inches of light powder. so i did not need it.
We both agreed it was/is a very bad design. The drive wheel is pressed on, and has a lot of stress. This works it loose, and as it does so, it works towards the rubber drive disc, That is why it always wants to pull, engaged or not.
I hope if anyone else here has problems they post about it. It is a major fix, you have to dis-assemble the entire guts to get to it. It is a major safety hazard as I see it. In reverse it keeps coming at you.
If this keeps happening, I see problems for Simplicity.
As I understand it, the old design had the wheel threaded on. It must have been much cheaper to build it this way. Smooth move simplicity.
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