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I own a Ariens 824 model 932101. It has a Tecumseh 8 horse engine.  On the throttle it has a rabbit for high speed and a turtle for low. When I put the throttle at the low speed setting it shuts off. It runs fine at high or mid throttle. Is this normal or should it Idle at the lowest or turtle setting? Thanks, Glen from Minnesota   By the way, it's done this since new.

You're giving the throttle too much  turtle.  Not a lot of play in these throttles.  A slight adjustment has a lot of effect.   Cut it back a little at a time until it's at the idle speed you want.  These singles can't idle at 500 rpm.  You will probably have to keep it spinning at around a minimum of  1000 to 1500 rpm.  

Thanks for the reply. It's not a big problem but seems to me it should idle at the lowest setting. I leave the key in all the time because it will shut off when I put it at the turtle setting. Why don't they put OFF on the lowest setting instead of turtle?   Not a big deal but just curious.  Thanks, Glen

It's suppose to idle at low speed,  It may be that your low speed jet is plugged on the carb..... Or the low speed throttle screw is backed out too far.. ( the screw  is located on the throttle plate or on a ear of carb casting near the throttle plate and shaft..

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Thanks for the info. I'll take a look at the carb.  Like I said, it's been that way since brand new.  Glen

  If you go to the lowest turtle setting it >should< kill the engine.  At the base travel of low speed is a ground to the magneto. 

 

  When you come off high or mid range speeds into the low throttle range the engine will get slower and slower.  In the lowest area of the low range the throttle will eventually have no effect (not the very bottom) and have some slight travel with no effect until hitting the bottom of the travel – where the engine will cut out. 

 

  The reason for that is when the throttle travel gets low enough you hit the low RPM setting.  That is set with the jets and a screw on the top of the carb.  It prevents the throttle from restricting the gas so much that the engine shuts off.  It’s the min RPM setting and set by the screw.  Lowering the throttle more has no effect because the throttle is up against the screw.  Lowering more relaxes the throttle spring tension more but again has no effect because of the stop. 

 

  At this point further turtle has no effect.  Bottom turtle grounds the engine and is supposed to.

   

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Thanks for the reply. If that's the case then everything is normal. Good to know. By the way, been getting snow every other day up here in Minnesota. Blower's been getting a work out this year. Snowed last night and another storm predicted tomorrow. Been having sub zero temps regularly also. Merry Christmas everyone!  Glen

Try putting on a "longer" turtle sticker on the  engine. 

We're getting a good dump up here on the north west shore of Lake Superior.  Looks like at least five inches out on the driveway now and it's not done.  Does anyone here look at the radar maps on their local weather  web sites?  I look at mine regularly (it's in my favourites).   It's pretty accurate.    It's animated so you can see the storm moving on the screen.  You can see how much of the system has passed and how much more to come.  Neat stuff.   

Try putting on a "longer" turtle sticker on the  engine.  

We're getting a good dump up here on the north west shore of Lake Superior.  Looks like at least five inches out on the driveway now and it's not done.  Does anyone here look at the radar maps on their local weather  web sites?  I look at mine regularly (it's in my favourites).   It's pretty accurate.    It's animated so you can see the storm moving on the screen.  You can see how much of the system has passed and how much more to come.  Neat stuff.   

Try putting on a "longer" turtle sticker on the  engine, or just stretch the existing turtle's neck out a bit.   

We're getting a good dump up here on the north west shore of Lake Superior.  Looks like at least five inches out on the driveway now and it's not done.  Does anyone here look at the radar maps on their local weather  web sites?  I look at mine regularly (it's in my favourites).   It's pretty accurate.    It's animated so you can see the storm moving on the screen.  You can see how much of the system has passed and how much more to come.  Neat stuff.