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automatic1stdown


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Ariens auger leaks snow out the side
Original Message   Dec 21, 2008 12:25 am
I have an Ariens 9526DLE that I bought Fall 2007.  It works well and throws snow out the chute like nothing I've seen before.  However, the auger seems to spit/leak out snow on the righthand side (respective to when I'm looking at the auger housing directly from the front).  I took it to the dealer and they said I had a 1/2 sheared shearpin and replaced it under warranty.  That didn't fix it and I'm still left with snow leaking out that side.  It's annoying as it leaves a small trail of snow all over the place that I have to shovel up by hand.  I would characterize it as snow being thrown/spit out forward as the auger spins.  It happens when I'm chewing through snow greater than 2" high.  I thought the auger rail on the right side was installed backwards perhaps... can someone take a look at the pics and confirm the auger rail is installed properly?  Thanks!


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mkd55


Location: wisconsin
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
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Re: Ariens auger leaks snow out the side
Reply #2   Dec 21, 2008 8:49 am
there is a thread here on the same topic but i can't find it now. it has something to do with the snow hitting the auger and the auger turning 130 rpm per minute.it said to check and make sure the edge of the auger is not bent away from the auger housing. i would check the right and left side auger clearances/ to housing and look and see if right side is identical to the left side.   found the thread! there are more responses following this post.search "926dle loosing snow" in the upper right search for box then click ajace link! hope this helps!!  now i'm off to tampa for the week!
AJace


I have an Ariens 926 Pro because I like Orange



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Ariens 926 DLE loosing snow
Original Message   Jan 24, 2005 1:11 am
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I did try my 926 DLE "Orange Crunch" this weekend.  I noticied that snow was coming out of the auger housing on the very left in a circular pattern like the auger moves.  I stopped the auger and a little snow came out where the deflector meets the chute.  About a 1/4" gap there.  Is any other Ariens 926 user experiencing this? 

Ariens 926 DLE Professional; Toro S200; Craftsman LT1000, Echo ES-230;

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Jonathan


I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man I keep his house. -Zsa Zsa

Location: Near Albany NY
Joined: Sep 12, 2004
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Re: Ariens auger leaks snow out the side
Reply #3   Dec 22, 2008 11:29 am
I used the snowblower this AM to clear an additional 4" we got yesterday. The snow was light as it was in the previous 9" snowfall. The auger on the right side is throwing a small amount of snow forward, but not to the side, so in my particular case, I don't think there is a problem.

2004 Ariens 11528LE, Troybilt Horse "Big Red" Tiller (original), Troybilt Tuffy Tiller (original), Sears LT1000 mower, Lawn Boy 7073 21" mower, Stihl FS55 RC trimmer, Poulan Countervibe 3400 chainsaw
snowstorm


Location: Montreal QC Canada
Joined: Dec 23, 2008
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Re: Ariens auger leaks snow out the side
Reply #4   Dec 23, 2008 9:15 pm
I will explain the root cause of the problem. If anyone finds a solution, please post it.

The impeller acts as an air fan.

In theory, the air is inputted from the front of the blower housing and is completely outputted in the discharge chute (i.e. the air flow is from the front of the blower towards the chute).

In practice, the impeller produces too much airflow to be completely outputted in the chute. What is actually happening, is that the air is inputted from one side of the housing and the air is exhausted at BOTH the chute and the other side of the housing.

This can be confirming by moving a light rag (or a candle) in front of the housing to watch the air flow.

So when the snow is being blown, the fluffy stuff is ejected on one side of the housing according to the airflow.

/Snow Storm
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Ariens auger leaks snow out the side
Reply #5   Dec 23, 2008 9:40 pm
Does that unit only have three impeller vanes?   Is that something new? 

Here's a pic of the four vane impeller on the Simplicity:

Jonathan


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Location: Near Albany NY
Joined: Sep 12, 2004
Points: 320

Re: Ariens auger leaks snow out the side
Reply #6   Dec 23, 2008 10:31 pm
My Ariens has 4 impeller vanes. I think all the current models have 3.

2004 Ariens 11528LE, Troybilt Horse "Big Red" Tiller (original), Troybilt Tuffy Tiller (original), Sears LT1000 mower, Lawn Boy 7073 21" mower, Stihl FS55 RC trimmer, Poulan Countervibe 3400 chainsaw
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Ariens auger leaks snow out the side
Reply #7   Dec 24, 2008 10:01 am
Looking at the backing plate for the impellers, it's clear that the Ariens used considerably less material and one vane less as well.  Saving money on steel I guess?   Understandable.  The Chinese were sucking up steel in 2007 and 2008 at a phenomenal rate.  Steel prices (as well as many other metals) went through the roof.  Personally, I'd rather pay more for the product than have it built more cheaply.  A name is only as good as it's product.  When the product no longer deserves the name, consumers will catch on and the name will lose it's marketing value.   I hope all of the domestic manufacturers don't follow this example.       
IMMike


Joined: Dec 16, 2008
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Re: Ariens auger leaks snow out the side
Reply #8   Dec 24, 2008 10:09 am
  I can't speak to why they made the change, but I'd just like to point out that it could have been seen as an improvement because fewer blades means it's easier for the snow to get into the impeller in the first place.  Reducing the number of blades but increasing RPM a bit would allow for better snow ejection.

I.M.Mike
borat


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Points: 2692

Re: Ariens auger leaks snow out the side
Reply #9   Dec 24, 2008 2:13 pm
For some reason, that doesn't sound right to me.  If fewer blades are more efficient, why not go to two blades, or better yet, one?   Funny how that works on a snow thrower. 

If you look at an airplane prop.  more blades = more efficiency.   I know it's a different application of blades but one would think that the fan effect of more blades would move more air and thus more snow.   I would suspect that the theory of fewer blades is to allow for greater openings between vanes and supposedly larger volumes of snow to enter into the impeller housing.  That poses another problem for me.  Considering the rotational speed of the impeller, one vane less wouldn't seem to offer a lot of opportunity for more snow to get in.   Someone will have to clue me in on how fewer blades is more efficient... 

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pvrp


Joined: Nov 14, 2008
Points: 151

Re: Ariens auger leaks snow out the side
Reply #10   Dec 24, 2008 3:27 pm
For what it's worth the impeller in my 1999 Ariens 1024 has six blades, 1/8" thick steel.

automatic1stdown, is the impeller shaft bear metal ?  Looks like it's rusted (Ariens
used to paint it).  If you haven't already done so you might want to take out the shear
bolts and inject grease while turning the augers until the grease comes out the ends

Paul P
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Ariens auger leaks snow out the side
Reply #11   Dec 24, 2008 6:13 pm
pvrp wrote:
For what it's worth the impeller in my 1999 Ariens 1024 has six blades, 1/8" thick steel.

automatic1stdown, is the impeller shaft bear metal ?  Looks like it's rusted (Ariens
used to paint it).  If you haven't already done so you might want to take out the shear
bolts and inject grease while turning the augers until the grease comes out the ends

Paul P


Six blades!  How could the snow possibly get in the housing with so much steel spinning around in there?   Just kidding.  That model and vintage of Ariens was a premium snow throwing machine.  Something Ariens can be proud of. 

 Actually, Ariens had some of the best machines you could buy for thirty years or better.   I just cannot fathom a company with such a respectable history and great name laying it all on the line to save a few bucks.  Times are tough understandably.  However, it takes decades to develop a good name.  All it takes is a couple years of producing mediocre products to ruin it. 

I believe the reduction of the number of vanes is simply cost cutting being marketed as better efficiency.  Better efficiency for getting the product out of the plant as far as I can see.     Look at the backing plate.  It's pretty skimpy too.   If someone can explain how fewer vanes makes for a more efficient impeller, I'd like to hear the theory. 

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