Outdoor Power Equipment (Lawn Mowers, Snow Blowers, Chain Saws and more) Discussions

Does anyone know what Tecumseh changes to yield 11HP from the same block as the 9HP Snow King?  I would guess it's either the carb., induction system, valves or maybe all of the above?

what are the model and spec numbers of both engines in question.    alot of the hp ratings have to with SALES .  some manufacturere dont want and 11 hp on thier equipment so tecumseh prints up a 9 hp decal.  it very well could be the same block but with out numbers its hard to tell.

Briggs & Stratten do the same thing.   Sell an engine of specific displacement with different horse power rating.  I've come to the conclusion that most of it is, as previously stated, for marketing reasons.  Bigger numbers will demand more money.   I did a very close comparison with the B&S 305 cc engine parts list between the 9 h.p. and 11 h.p. rated engines.  Every part that would have an effect on power was exactly the same.  Item for item, part number for part number.  The engines spin at the same speed and are of the same displacement.  With no difference in parts, either the engine is 9 or 11 h.p.   From my experience with my 9.5 rated B&S engine, I would conclude that the engine is producing the higher amount of the two ratings.  I have previously had two 10 h.p. power snow throwers.  Both machines were well maintained and worked as intended.  My 9.5 engine that I have now, throws considerably further than either of the other two ever did.    

Hello 

Great forum.  Just  joined, but have been reading for quite some time.

I recently purchased a new snowthrower and I too have been wondering about  different power ratings for the same engines.

I have had no luck on the net finding what my snowblower engines' spec numbers mean.  Does anyone know of a site that would explain to me what power the engine has and what features it comes equipped with?  The info on the TecumsehPower site seems to only explain what a 6 digit spec number means, mine is a 5 digit  number with letter G at the end..

By the way, it is a Tecumseh OH195SA, Spec 72569G, Family 8TPXS 1951AF.

Thanks.

Sometimes to change the torque of a motor they change the flywheel (from aluminum to cast steel ),   this form what I understand absorbs the amount of available horspower at the ptu shaft but increases torque..

I remimber right..

Friiy

friiy wrote:
I agree that a heavier flywheel will maintain a more linear  torque supply.  Particularly under load.  The heavier flywheel's momentum will not be as sensitive to load variations as a lighter flywheel.  I cannot see how this could possibly reduce horse power though.   Once the engines are spinning at equal rpms, power output should be the same.   If the heavier flywheel restricted the ability to achieve equivalent rpms, I'd agree with you.  Otherwise, I'm having trouble understanding how it would inhibit power output.   I know with drag racing engines, savvy racers will put in a lighter flywheel to aid in acceleration by having the engine spin up fractionally quicker.  Overall, engine power output was virtually no different between the two flywheels once the engine was at full rpms.   

  about the only things that will effect hp or torque are,   parasitc loads   example once you start putting  blade adapters, pulleys, belts  etc  all these items will rob the unit of actual hp.  this is how briggs and stratton got into trouble.   the advertised a specific unit was 6 hp.......... now what the didn't exactly disclose was this was "raw"   meaning now parasitc load on it.  well someone   dyno'ed an engine and it was only 5 hp......  anyway  later

A flywheel is the mechanical equivalent of a capacitor, it stores power for a little while. A heavy flywheel will cause an engine to take longer to come up to speed but does not change the overall power output. Once the engine is up to speed the flywheel will smooth out the power output and cause the engine to take longer to slow down once it is turned off.

Flywheels are particularly important in low cyclinder count engines ( singles for instance) since there are fewer power storkes per RPM. It stores some of the energy created in the power stroke and uses it to keep the engine turning over until the next power stroke occurs.

There is also a gyroscopic effect which can be kind of weird if you ever pick up a generator and try to turn it.

Several years ago I started a thread(http://www.abbysguide.com/ope/discussions/7869-A-1.html)that grew to over 154 posts regarding this very subject. While it was with regard to a Briggs engine Tecumseh does(did) the same thing. It appears that the change to torque ratings rather than horsepower which is now being used is an attempt to further obfiscate the truth and reveals the shady way in which engine manufacturers rate their products.Try and make it through the entire thread-It makes for interesting reading!!

Marc