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mikiewest


Joined: Dec 29, 2007
Points: 262

freewheel steering vs. easy turn
Original Message   Sep 21, 2008 9:08 am
toros freewheel steering seems to be the way to go.So why would simplicity only have one wheel stop on such expensive machines?Is it as good turning right and left as toros?How much more would it cost to put a trigger mechanism for each wheel?
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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
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Re: freewheel steering vs. easy turn
Reply #6   Nov 5, 2008 7:54 pm
mikiewest wrote:
Borat you are correct so I guess Simplicity is also guilty.Why would a company take a simple chute rotator and make it electric??I think an electric chute rotator has a higher failure rate than the regular mechanism...They all have their own gizmos for a sales advantage.


Totally agree with you bud.  That's why I bought a machine with mechanical actuation everywhere.  Don't get me wrong.  I love technology.  However, it has it's place.  Electric control components on a snow thrower is not a wise place.   Electric start is alright.  Those components are well protected and stout enough to handle the elements.  As you say, the manufacturers are putting "tinsel" on the machines to make them attractive to suckers for technology.  Which, unfortunately, is the majority of males.  Myself included.  Experience has taught me to overcome the allure of the gizmo and go with what's tried and true.  The simpler the machine the better.    Since Briggs & Stratton have taken over Simplicty, I suspect that B&S marketing have had an influence on product design.  You can bet they know what sells, regardless of whether or not the design will function properly in it's intended roll or environment.   

By the way, which Simplicity models have the electronic chute control?  I checked their site and didn't see any.

mikiewest


Joined: Dec 29, 2007
Points: 262

Re: freewheel steering vs. easy turn
Reply #7   Nov 6, 2008 11:59 am
I said electric chute rotator.It's on the signature pro models.I think your machine will have less problems than the pro model .What happens if that chute rotator fails ?Can it be manually overridden?
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: freewheel steering vs. easy turn
Reply #8   Nov 6, 2008 9:57 pm
mikiewest wrote:
I said electric chute rotator.It's on the signature pro models.I think your machine will have less problems than the pro model .What happens if that chute rotator fails ?Can it be manually overridden?


I doubt it.  If I recall correctly, there were a number of complaints on this forum regarding the electronic chute/deflector control on quite a few brands of snow throwers.  Yeah.  It's something to watch guys in the shops going ga-ga over electric joy sticks and giggling when the servo motors make their neat robotic sounds.  Not so great when the servo mechanism freezes and they can't change the direction of the chute.  I watched one guy do his entire driveway in one direction because he had lost control of the chute. Due to the location of his house, he can only throw snow one way.  So he'd make a forward pass throwing snow, drag the machine all the way back and repeat.  Really now, is it that difficult to turn a crank or pull a lever?  Do we need an electric motor to do the work of two fingers and a thumb?   The more we support this type of design philosophy, the more it will prevail over the more simple, sensible and reliable designs.  SAY NO TO THE GIZMO!!!!
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