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? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Original Message   Oct 18, 2008 10:01 pm
Is there a simple way to disconnect the governor arm from the carborator? I've removed the bolts that hold the carb on but it won't slide off (It needs cleaned big time) because the of the linkage to the governor arm (wire rod and spring).  The shop manual says to remove one of the two screws that hold it on, but I'm not sure which one should be removed or what will happen to the governor if I do remove them.  I have heard that governors are really hard to adjust and I was trying to avoid that agrevation.  I've labels the two screws "A" and "B"  (one of them is really a bolt).

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Oh the frustration.
Reply #29   Nov 3, 2008 11:14 pm
I have been dying to go get the carb back on and try it out. But family stuff got in the way all weekend.  The needle valve looks good to me but I would like to polish the small channel that it slides up in to. I noticed before that it would sometimes stick or hesitate when it moved up or down.  The snowblower has not run in a long time and I thought I would put some fresh oil in the crank case. Here's an image of the needle's  tip . 


 

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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #30   Nov 4, 2008 12:26 am
You can polish the channel it rides in,  but do not polish the area that the rubber tip seats at...  

Friiy

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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #31   Nov 5, 2008 12:49 am
friiy wrote:
 polish the channel it rides in,  but do not polish the area that the rubber tip seats at...  

The carb is completely back together..  Maybe I should have assembled the main jet using anti- seize.  It was so tough to get out. But I didn't .  I'll be amazed if the the large O-ring gasket around the top of the bowl doesn't   leak.  A new one is close to $20, so I take my chances for now.  

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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #32   Nov 5, 2008 9:28 am
The large bowl rubber  ring is not nuch of a seal,   fuel only reaches that point when the engine is tipped. or if the inlet needle is leaking past overfilling the carb...

Friiy...

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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #33   Nov 5, 2008 9:30 am
besides.... that ring is most likly cheeper from a aftermarket company like Rotory, Arnold , Billues.... or so on.....

Plus,   that ring may be the same as a Honda bowl or a Kawasaki...

Friiy

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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #34   Nov 6, 2008 7:53 pm
Did you start the Yamaha yet?

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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #35   Nov 7, 2008 9:43 am
friiy wrote:
Did you start the Yamaha yet? 


No, I have not started it  yet. Its on the docket for Sunday. I have to put the fuel tank back on. It was full of gummy stuff in the bottom that had to be cleaned out (done). I did find the original owner's manual and the correct spark plug cheap online. Those arrived.  The manual helped me set the gap on the plug and describes the correct choke and throttle settings for starting the YAMAHA.

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The carburetor repair did the trick. Its running now! And a question on governor adjustments.
Reply #36   Nov 9, 2008 6:39 pm
Here it is running (see link).  It started right up.  What a difference with a clean carb.  I do think that the old fuel line is pumping rubber residue into the carb.  The oil was clear when it started but after about 30 minutes it was really gross.  The engine runs fine at idle. And it runs fine at a higher RPM.  The only issue I have (with the motor) is that when the snowblower is running with a heavy load the governor kicks in and raises the rpms way up. Far higher that I think the engine should be running.  Is this screw (on a part connecting the governor to the throttle) supposed to control high rpms called for by the governor?   This screw does not appear to be doing anyting. If not this screw is there a control elsewhere  for how high a governor is allowed to take the rpms? Note: you can see the screw in the photo below in the yellow box with a pink check mark

 

Here's the video:

http://vimeo.com/2411425

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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #37   Nov 9, 2008 9:42 pm
Screw A and B are you should not have to adjust....  unless someone has taken it apart... It looks as though no one has touched it..

The screw with the check mark is the high speed throttle plate limit,  if you tighten that down it will ( if I remember right) / should limit the no load top speed..

The unit,,as far as I  can tell from the video,  is running too fast at idle.  It should just put aglong about 500-700 rmp (I think).  and should run at about 3250 rpm at high speed.  ( I think)... Check the manual.  It should tell you...  Do you have a tach to see how fast it is going?

Just a note.... The checked screw and the screw on top of the  throttle shaft plate (low idle speed set screw) are screws that people try to adjust when the carb starts to clog up..

When the carbs start to clog up, they hunt and surge in rpm,  and will not sustain low speed rpm (idle)...  they adjust the screw so the carb is out of the idle range and continues to run...   But of coarse this is not right...

Good to hear it running,  does all the drive/ snow auger work ?

From the Desert,

Friiy

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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #38   Nov 9, 2008 9:51 pm
Your choke arm lever seems to bounce around alot, is it borken or just comming loose?

You may want to  peen the shaft back on the arm, and straighten it out. it will keep you from looseing the arm lever.

take a picture of the top of it, and I will tell you what I think should be done...

Friiy

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