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? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Original Message   Oct 18, 2008 10:01 pm
Is there a simple way to disconnect the governor arm from the carborator? I've removed the bolts that hold the carb on but it won't slide off (It needs cleaned big time) because the of the linkage to the governor arm (wire rod and spring).  The shop manual says to remove one of the two screws that hold it on, but I'm not sure which one should be removed or what will happen to the governor if I do remove them.  I have heard that governors are really hard to adjust and I was trying to avoid that agrevation.  I've labels the two screws "A" and "B"  (one of them is really a bolt).

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Underdog


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This Yamaha snowblower engine does have a TK carb. Does that mean I can get a rebuild kit for it?
Reply #10   Oct 21, 2008 7:11 am
Is the carburetor's model number also printed ?  I'd like to find a rebuild kit or a direct replacement. 

friiy


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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #11   Oct 22, 2008 10:56 am
Kits are not really needed ,  There is only about 3 or 4 things that may need to be replaced at worst case....

1) float inlet needle

2) Bowl  seal (large o-ring goes around the bowl and seals to the carb body)

3) bowl bolt seal

4) float and pin

Unless the carb is Rotted out with water and full of powdery residue...   I would only change the the parts that are un-serviceable after cleaning.

The float is un-ajustable, the needle is only thing that is hard to tell it it is bad without a trained eye...  But  if It leaks after being put back together then needle is suspect..

About everthing can be reused unless the carb is rotted out or full of green and white powder..

as for a carb model it Should  be printed on it,  But who knows... What modle of Yamaha is this and what type of thrower (model)?

Thats most likely about $85 for that carb.

Good Luck,

Friiy

Underdog


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I got the carb off and now I'm soaking it and trying to clean out the jets and nozzles
Reply #12   Oct 26, 2008 10:40 am
I've got it apart and now I'm trying to free the jets and nozzles. There's quite a bit of corrosion, we'll see how it goes.

#9   7KF1434221 JET. PILOT (#42)
#10 7KF1434345 JET. MAIN (#90)
#11 7KF1434100 NOZZLE. MAIN
#13 14T1439202 VALVE. NEEDLE

Ref # Part number
1 7KF1450100 CARBURETOR ASSY superseded by 7KF1450101.
2 7KF1422700 WASHER
3 7KF1416200 BOLT. HOLDING
4 7KF1419100 PLUG. DRAIN
5 6461421201 SPRING. PILOT ADJUSTI (3 needed)
6 7KF1421100 SCREW. PILOT ADJUSTIN
7 7KF1421600 SCREW
8 7KF1438400 GASKET. FLOAT CHAMBER
9 7KF1434221 JET. PILOT (#42)
10 7KF1434345 JET. MAIN (#90)
11 7KF1434100 NOZZLE. MAIN
12 3671438600 PIN. FLOAT
13 14T1439202 VALVE. NEEDLE
14 7KF1438500 FLOAT
15 7KF135550000 MANIFOLD,INTAKE
16 7KF1355710 GASKET

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Underdog


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I cannot seem to get the nozzle to screw loose. Any suggestions?
Reply #13   Oct 26, 2008 11:32 am
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friiy


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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #14   Oct 26, 2008 12:25 pm
It doesn't look that bad from what I see ( no heavy pitting),   It looks as though you cleaned of the corrosion...

When I take out the main jet to get to the nozzel,  I get a good stubby screwdriver with  the right size blade width for the main jet slot,  then I grind the shaft of the screwdriver to fit in the well hole of the main jet/ nozzel tower. I grind the shaft to so i don't screw up the threads for the bowl nut.  I take the carb body and put it in a vise with soft faced grip ( so I do not tear up the carb)..... If the Main jet is going to be difficult, I tap it with the screw driver and hammer lightly.   If that does not work I may heat the main jet with a small pencil torche for a moment to break it loose (brass heats up quick and expands alot).   Sometimes "Mouse's Milk" or " Aero-kroll"  penetrating oil may  help. 

Good Luck,

Friiy

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I picked up 3 cheap screw drivers to grind away at.
Reply #15   Oct 26, 2008 3:20 pm
I wonder if there is some special tool they use for this.
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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #16   Oct 26, 2008 3:20 pm
This is good advice.  I can do this.  I'll get busy grinding down my screwdrivers.

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Bowl should be filling with fuel but it doesn't. I have not gotten to cleaning the jets out yet but I re-assembled the card and tried to start it
Reply #17   Oct 26, 2008 8:56 pm
I don't know why the jets and nozzle woul be critical to the carb getting gas into the bowl.  The fact that the bowl remains dry seems strange to me.     When I removed the carb the bowl it is still empty. I know for a fact that the float is working and that the little needle valve on the spring is dropping down (to open and let fuel in) but no gas is dropping into the bowl.  The carb is fed by a small diaphram fuel pump and that is working (there's gas under pressure when I remove the fuel line connection to the carb).  So why is the gas not dropping into the bowl?  I don't think its the jets, their job is to mix the air and fuel.  Am I right about this.  This has me baffled.

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friiy


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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #18   Oct 26, 2008 10:23 pm
You must have something stuck in the fuel inlet for the carb,  try blowing compredded air through the the fuel inlet and see if somethin falls out...

Is the fuel line rotted at all internally,  I have seen the inside of black fuel line turn to mush and get rolled into the inlet when the fuel line is reattached..(like a ball of chewing gum)..

Good Luck

Friiy

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Re: ? How can you disconnect the governor arm from the carborator without messing up the governor or wrecking the linkage to the carb?
Reply #19   Oct 27, 2008 8:08 pm
Sure I have compressed air. I flushed out the gas lines and they did not seem bad at all.   I'm guessing I should blow the compressed air with a nozzle through the line from the end where the needle seats above the bowl.  so I don't further cram whatever is in there down the line. Problem now is that the bowl pin does not slide. The pin is really tight.

Is there any way to loosen the pin?  I've been told by others that the TK carbs have very fragile arms that hold the pin.  Any ideas?

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