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JayB


Joined: Mar 15, 2008
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Need advice on a 2-year old Sears snowthrower that is seized
Original Message   Mar 15, 2008 9:04 am
First allow me to say that I know NOTHING about engines.  I pull the cord and if it stars,I use it..

Well, I purchased a new SEARS snowthrower in Jan 2005; and used it with success for two seasons.  I replaced the gas with fresh gasoline; and ran it briefly during the off-months to make sure that the engine would start.

This winter, (2007/2008), I added new fresh gas and attempted to start it with the electric starter; and no joy.  It just cranked for several seconds; and would not fir up.  I repeated this a few times with no success.  I tried using the cord; and nothing.. As in nothing.. It would not pull out and seemed like it froze up.  When I tried to use the electric start again, it hummed and was clearly having difficulty trying to turn whatever it is that it is supposed to turn to start up the engine.

I thought I flooded the engine with gas, or maybe a piece of debris has jammed the blades on the snow thrower portion of the machine.. I gave it a day and nothing.. There is wher she sits today, Spring 2008.

Time to get some advice now that the weather is mo cooperative.

Any thoughts ?

Remember, I know next to nothing about small engines.  If the fix is something that you think is simple, I'll give it a go..

 

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Moderator Denis


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Re: Need advice on a 2-year old Sears snowthrower that is seized
Reply #2   Mar 15, 2008 11:34 am
It seems that the choke plate is stuck in close position, no air no start and flooding. check the butterfly, check gas cap, check for spark, if plug is wet replace with new one and restart if its get wet again you probaly have a disajust gap point or bad magneto.


borat


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Re: Need advice on a 2-year old Sears snowthrower that is seized
Reply #3   Mar 15, 2008 4:55 pm
When you nothing happens using the pull cord, do you mean that you cannot turn the engine over?  If so, pull your spark plug and try to turn the engine over using the pull cord.  Tell us what happens.
nibbler


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Re: Need advice on a 2-year old Sears snowthrower that is seized
Reply #4   Mar 16, 2008 1:16 am
Could also be water in the engine is frozen, I've had that happen three times this year. I put it in a warm place and it thawed out enough to turn over and start up. I normally use the fuel cutoff valve and let the engine run dry but I still get freeze ups.
niper99


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Re: Need advice on a 2-year old Sears snowthrower that is seized
Reply #5   Mar 16, 2008 2:46 am
yeah l would do what borat mentioned
JayB


Joined: Mar 15, 2008
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Re: Need advice on a 2-year old Sears snowthrower that is seized
Reply #6   Mar 16, 2008 1:51 pm
Tubby wrote:
You check the oil once in a while also, right?
Changed it maybe?



Yes.  Good point.  I neglected tomention that.  I have not changed it; but have checked it on a regular basis; and there is sufficient oil.

Regards,

Jay Breda

JayB


Joined: Mar 15, 2008
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Re: Need advice on a 2-year old Sears snowthrower that is seized
Reply #7   Mar 16, 2008 1:54 pm
borat wrote:
When you nothing happens using the pull cord, do you mean that you cannot turn the engine over?  If so, pull your spark plug and try to turn the engine over using the pull cord.  Tell us what happens.



When I attempt to use the pull cord, it does not move at all.

I will remove the spark plug and report back.

JayB


Joined: Mar 15, 2008
Points: 5

Re: Need advice on a 2-year old Sears snowthrower that is seized
Reply #8   Mar 16, 2008 1:57 pm
Denis wrote:
It seems that the choke plate is stuck in close position, no air no start and flooding. check the butterfly, check gas cap, check for spark, if plug is wet replace with new one and restart if its get wet again you probaly have a disajust gap point or bad magneto.



The choke switch is in the off position.  I have no idea what the butterfly is.  The gas cap was removed and put back; what else do I check?  Check for spark ..  Remember I am a dummy.  What is that?

Well over my head..

JayB


Joined: Mar 15, 2008
Points: 5

Re: Need advice on a 2-year old Sears snowthrower that is seized
Reply #9   Mar 16, 2008 1:58 pm
nibbler wrote:
Could also be water in the engine is frozen, I've had that happen three times this year. I put it in a warm place and it thawed out enough to turn over and start up. I normally use the fuel cutoff valve and let the engine run dry but I still get freeze ups.



Temps have been above freezing for a while; and still no movement on the pull cord.

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Need advice on a 2-year old Sears snowthrower that is seized
Reply #10   Mar 16, 2008 2:22 pm
JayB wrote:
Temps have been above freezing for a while; and still no movement on the pull cord.


Pull the spark plug and look to see if the piston is at the top or bottom of the cylinder,  If it's at the top, get a stick just small enough to put in the spark plug hole and see if you can move the piston downward into the cylinder.  It might take a light tap with a hammer on the stick.  Don't force it or break the stick.  If it goes down, the engine isn't seized.  If will not move, there's a good chance that it is.  Is this a Tecumseh L head engine?  If it is, it's very easy to remove the cylinder head to have a better look at what's happening inside.  Let us know how it goes.
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