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Chewy


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Toro 826 LE Or Ariens 1027 LE?
Original Message   Feb 16, 2008 9:56 pm
My 25 Year old no name snowblower has finally reached a point where it's not worth repairing and I have decided to buy a new one.  Right now the pickings are a little scarce in my area but I can get either the Toro 826 LE or the Ariens 1027 LE.  Both are pretty much the same price but I really can't decide between the two.  They both seem to pretty much have the same features except the Ariens does have a 10HP over the Toro's 8HP.

Which one would you all prefer?  I was a little disappointed in the huge amounts of plastic on the Toro but still overall it did still seem to be just as sturdy as the Ariens. 

I have also been very disappointed in how difficult it is to find any brand snow thrower with a B&S engine.  Why did they all go to Tecumseh?  I don't really have anything against Tecumseh but I've always had great luck with B&S engines and that would be my preference.

**** I feel I should also mention that the Ariens is at Home Depot, they have 2 floor models left.  That kind of worries me because of all the people in the past few months that probably played with the controls while browsing for snowblowers in the store.  It just concerns me that it may cause something on the snowblower to break prematurely.
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mml4


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Joined: Dec 31, 2003
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Re: Toro 826 LE Or Ariens 1027 LE?
Reply #8   Feb 26, 2008 7:51 pm
Briggs owns Simplicity and Snapper.

 With regard to the Ariens- Ask to speak to the manager of the store and ask for an end of season discount. Don't be shy-Home Depot has a history of deep discounts on their left over stock and floor models and its' pretty close to that time. 

If you buy the Ariens from Home Depot go through the set up/assembly  procedure in the manual before you run it. Look to make sure that each bolt is tightened and that all the washers are present in each area that is referenced for assembly .Make sure the  plastic cable ties are in place (the ones that keep the control cables away from the muffler and spark plug . The engine requires no set up other than to check the dip stick for oil level and add fuel. Total time invested is about 30 minutes. Remember you are not putting the machine together but checking on work already done.Besides if you do this you will have the added benefit of knowing your machine.  Don't forget or neglect to do the after first hour or so belt adjustment. Perform the  suggested time interval first oil change with 5-30wt  (don't over or under fill), keep your fuel fresh and use Stabil or it's equivalent and the machine should last you the rest of your life.  

 My father bought a 926LE three years ago for $499 and I bought a Toro 2450 as a backup for my 2 stage for about $300. We can argue all day long about one brand vs another but when you factor in the savings Home Depot gives on left overs it's a no brainer. An Ariens at deep discount is a bargain!!!!  

Marc

This message was modified Feb 26, 2008 by mml4


SnapperV210P,Toro22177,TroyBilt42010Snowthrower,Craftsman Shredder,American Turbo Pressure Washer HondaGX200,Stihl011Saw,EchoPas260Trimmer Edger,EchoPB602Blower,EchoHCR150Hedge Clipper
donjag


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Location: menasha,wisconsin
Joined: Apr 25, 2007
Points: 142

Re: Toro 826 LE Or Ariens 1027 LE?
Reply #9   Feb 26, 2008 9:28 pm
In regards to asking a box store for a end of season discount,First of all,i would NOT buy any OPE from a box store.And then you say check there work?My father in law is the cheapest s.o.b. in the world,he always buys from Menards,and guess what?I always end up over there fixing/putting together the right way some snot nosed little punks mess.(He must be wondering about Mary Jane rotten crotch.)Sorry about the rant,but i would spend the extra 4 or 5 hundred and get a quality machine from a reputable dealer.You might as well go to Walmart .And i won't even say what i think of them.

donjag


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Location: menasha,wisconsin
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Re: Toro 826 LE Or Ariens 1027 LE?
Reply #10   Feb 26, 2008 9:45 pm
sorry for venting.but the bottom line is you get what you pay for.if you are handy with a wrench,and do not care how your machine is put together,by all means,go to a box store and get a good deal.with my experiances,i do not recomend it.they do not service nothing,parts are next to impossible to get,need i go on.my neighbor bought a blower from menards,went to use it,it would not go in gear,fixed that and then the damn chute fell off.quality built or what?sorry im getting worked up again.you get what you pay for.

mml4


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Deep snow is better!


Joined: Dec 31, 2003
Points: 544

Re: Toro 826 LE Or Ariens 1027 LE?
Reply #11   Feb 27, 2008 8:33 am
Donjag-

I agree with you to a point about the Box Stores. But if you have ever seen the small ammount of actual assembly (dealer prep) there is on a snow blower you would understand my point of view. On the Ariens all that you need to do is flip up and attach the handle bars using some wing nuts,mount the chute and attach the chute control to the control panel, attach a cable with a plastic cable tie and you are done. It takes more time to assemble most children's toys.

Chewy ,the fellow who started this thread stated he is replacing a worn out 25 year old machine. Anyone who has owned a blower for 25 years is more thgan capable of whats required to check out a floor model that is brand new with an engine that hasen't seen fuel. 

In addition we are not speaking of an MTD , AYP or Craftsman cheapy here. We are talking about an Ariens LE series machine that is the exact same unit sold in the OPE stores. I would like to support my local OPE dealer and for $50 or $100 I would but not for 50% off of list.  

Marc  

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SnapperV210P,Toro22177,TroyBilt42010Snowthrower,Craftsman Shredder,American Turbo Pressure Washer HondaGX200,Stihl011Saw,EchoPas260Trimmer Edger,EchoPB602Blower,EchoHCR150Hedge Clipper
donjag


i've gone to find myself,if i'm here when you arrive,keep me here until i get back.

Location: menasha,wisconsin
Joined: Apr 25, 2007
Points: 142

Re: Toro 826 LE Or Ariens 1027 LE?
Reply #12   Feb 27, 2008 4:19 pm
marc,i apologize,i have never dealt with a ariens from a box store.only the crap you mentioned.sorry

Chewy


Joined: Feb 16, 2008
Points: 10

Re: Toro 826 LE Or Ariens 1027 LE?
Reply #13   Feb 27, 2008 7:37 pm
Thanks for all the replies everyone.  After much consideration I've decided that I'd rather not buy a floor model from Home Depot because probably hundreds of people have played with over the past few months.  I admit I'm probably putting way too much thought into this but if something goes wrong with it I'll always say I should have known better.  Plus after much research it really does seem like the Simplicity's are the best bang for the buck so I think I'm going to wait until next fall and buy one of those.
mml4


Snow is good,
Deep snow is better!


Joined: Dec 31, 2003
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Re: Toro 826 LE Or Ariens 1027 LE?
Reply #14   Feb 27, 2008 8:25 pm
donjag wrote:
marc,i apologize,i have never dealt with a ariens from a box store.only the crap you mentioned.sorry


An apology is totaly unnecessary!

Marc

SnapperV210P,Toro22177,TroyBilt42010Snowthrower,Craftsman Shredder,American Turbo Pressure Washer HondaGX200,Stihl011Saw,EchoPas260Trimmer Edger,EchoPB602Blower,EchoHCR150Hedge Clipper
Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
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Re: Toro 826 LE Or Ariens 1027 LE?
Reply #15   Feb 28, 2008 12:51 pm
The issue that I have with box stores isn't that a part-time clerk may have bungled the assembly and set-up.  Yes that may happen but I took my Ariens front-tine rototiller to an Ariens dealer once to have it serviced.  As part of the service they sharpened the tines...and then put the tines on backwards.  My point is that you can get bad service anywhere but my sense is that most Ariens dealers are on top of their game compared to box store clerks.

My main concern with the box stores is their liberal return policy.  Anyone buying a snowthrower from HD has 30 days to play with, fiddle with, or do God know what to the machine...then return it where it's resold.  Years ago I bought a riding lawn mower off the floor from a box store.  I couldn't get it to start for the life of me.  After much frustration I learned that someone previously bought it, put year old stale gas in it gumming everything up, and returned it because it wouldn't start.  The store clerk simply drained the tank thinking that would fix it and put it back on the floor. 

My message is that when buying from a box store...make sure that you're not buying something that some idiot had 30 days to mess up and then returned.
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