Outdoor Power Equipment (Lawn Mowers, Snow Blowers, Chain Saws and more) Discussions

Hello everyone. First time posting on this forum.

I was given an old Toro 824 for free. I think it's a 1989 model. I never owned a snowblower so I don't know much about them. The only snowblowing I did was with my two arms and a shovel.

I just dismantled the blower in my garage because of rust all over and are in the process of painting the engine shroud peices, the entire auger assembly and shroud, and the wheels. I took off the carb and cleaned it also. It ran great before the teardown and hope it runs better when I'm finished.

I just have some questions;

1) I purchased a new muffler but there was no gasket with it. The old muffler had no gasket either. Should there be a gasket?

2) What engine oil should be used?

3) What type of spark plug? (I just want to be sure it has the correct one)

4) Should there be oil in the auger gear assembly? I read somewhere grease is only needed.

5) Should there be an air filter? I didn't see one attached.

Here are some images.

The teardown...




Here is the painted engine shroud and auger shroud...



Here is the cleaned carb with newly painted linkage bracket...




Many more things to do...

:)

Hey good work buddy! pretty nice red too. By the way did you had trouble removing the impeller shaft from the housing bearing? Are you planning to remove the rakes?

Tell us more pal, very interesting job you are doing there.

Thanks... The shaft came out pretty easy. So far everything has been going good. I'm installing stainless steel nuts and bolts on most of the machine. Some of the bolts with the same head are hard to find in stainless but  as long as the thread is the same I'll be happy.

I assume the rakes are on either side of the auger? If so, yes I did manage to take them off. I was sanding them today.

I'll have more pics by the weekend.

I will be assembling this snowblower this week. I just have a few questions that I'm not sure about.

1.) What position should the bushing that holds the auger shaft face? Is it correct in the first image (upper arrow) or should I flip it as shown in the second image. The second image has a larger copper surface.
2.) There is a hole on the bushing flange (lower arrow). What position should this face and what is this used for?

It would help if someone an assembly manual. But I don't think it's possible to get one.

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3.) On the auger drive wheel (yellow arrow) there are locking bolts. What side should these bolts be on?

More_Power wrote:
I think logically the the brass bushing shown in pic 2 is the right one, It should face the pulley with the washer, It would prevent to move out. But if the impeller is close to the frame it could go inside, but like I said its easier to change by the outside, so pic2 seem the good way I think?

you shouldnt need a air filter,i have 3 of them and none of them have a air filter,try a j19lm plug,thats what mine use,and i put 10w30 oil in it,hope this helps,looks really good.jag

Air filters are one of the little differences between snowblower engines and units designed for use during the summer. I'm not exactly sure why since I would think aspirating snow into the carburetor would be considered "a bad thing". Then again you probably don't use a snowblower in dusty conditions.

an air filter on a snowblower would likely get wet during operation, and would then freeze solid after it's shut down. 

I finally had a chance to finish it. Check it out...

WOW! what an awesomwe job buddy, this is really good work, the look is incredible, guess i'd be happy to see it live hehehehe. You may add original sticker if you can get one , well again bravo.

Thanks Denis.

I still have the original sticker but it won't adhere anymore. Only if I could find some double sided tape the size of the sticker I'd be all set. Maybe a craft store would have something like that, I don't know.

I wouldn't mind getting a new one, but I don't know if Toro sells stuff like that.

that looks very nice,i have 2 sided tape,or tell me what the stickers are/say,there is a guy in town here that reproduces stickers that are not avalible anymore,again,nice work.  jag

the thing looks brand spanking new man nice job. i myself would have at first recomennded an iar filter but it would probably get we or somthing. if you really wanted one i would try to find an air filter housijng that was covered and pulled the air from the bottom or near th engine somewere as there would be no water there. have you fired her up yet?

I fired it up and idles great, the auger works, drives forward/reverse but am having a little trouble when I move the throttle to FAST. I followed Toro's factory setting but as soon as I move the throttle to FAST it dies. In one of the steps it says to rotate the Idle Speed Screw until engine idles fast at 1750RPM. How am I supposed to know when 1750RPM is reached?

I guess I have to play around with it a little more...

IT's very hard to ajust carburator in summertime without an air filter, thats why its dies, If you ajust the carburator with an air filter, you probaly need to reajust it in winter without the air filter. I use to run my snowblower once a week in summertime and it does the same thing but I know if i touch the screws it won't run good in winter.

Denis wrote:

from what i remember this is true. it has to do with the air tempreture difference creating a larger density during the winter time. as for the rpm adjustment talk to your local small engine repair specialist and ask how this can be done. i tthink a device is attached to the flyweel somehow. most manuels say to take them to an authorized specialsit for this thing because of the equipment. if it idles a little high its not that bad. i'd worry more about the air fuel mixture gbecause this effects performance,longivity and fuel consumption.

I need help.  I have a student that is rebuilding this kind of snowblower and need a manual to put it back together.  I work at an alternative school and would like to help him in his project.  I would like to be able to review a manual so he can understand what to do.  If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.  Thank You.

shawnat wrote: You can get the manuals from Toro's website.  Go to toro.com, click on homeowner, then customer care,
then manuals, enter the model #, (which on my toro was on a sticker on the back), hit search, at the bottom click manuals again, then download both the operators manual (general stuff), and the drive systems manual(which is a little more technical).  Don't worry about buying them.  Just download and print off a copy if you need them.  There may be more information but this is all I've needed so far.

Hey cool thread.  Too bad he never came back to tell us how it worked for the next 3 years.

I'll tell you what's cool, THAT PIPE ON HIS OIL DRAIN.  Nice touch.  Now he can drop the oil without dropping any on the floor!

I have a '88 521 and they are almost identical.  I like to see that.  To me it means the system must work.

TomJV