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JeffFarrar
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Which 2-cycle oil for Toro snow blower.
Original Message Nov 18, 2005 9:40 am |
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I know this is a stupid question. I have a 2-cycle Mercury outboard in which I run Mercury oil, a Sthil weed trimmer in which I run Sthil oil, and a Lawnboy lawnmower in which I run Lawnboy oil. Again all are 2-cycle. With all the different ratios I just make each its own gas can. Last year it got a Toro 2-cycle snow blower. I used up the oil that came with it but am unable to find the recommend Toro oil in any store. Hence this post. What is a good quality oil to use with the Toro? Or should I mail order the real Toro oil? Any of the above that I currently use work? I would like something that has a fuel stabilizer. I don't run the same gas across two seasons but one batch will last me the whole winter. I just have this thing about sticking with what the manufacture wants. Thanks. Am I being ridiculous for using all these different oils?
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luggy
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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Re: Which 2-cycle oil for Toro snow blower.
Reply #12 Feb 16, 2006 4:53 pm |
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Ever consider synthetic?
Over oiling can cause problems of their own and destruction of the engine is one. This is caused by the hard carbon formed on the piston and then breaking loose and scoring the cylinders. I have seen that scenario many, many times in the years of working on equipment and even some relatively good techs will overlook the carbon and blame it on a lean mixture.
Oil is almost solely used today to carry the additive packages. That is why with new technology 100:1 mixes can be used in many engines with the right two cycle oil.
IE: Evinrude E-TEC now not only has more power and torque compared to current 2 cycles, but exceeds them AND 4 strokes in pollution.. 2 Strokes are far from dead and making a comeback. The Evinrude E-TEC can run up to 5 hours with NO oil at all with no internal damage. The engines computer goes into "limp mode" and will run at I beleive up to 2000 RPM. So much for worrying about oil/fuel ratios.
AMSOIL for one is why snowmobiles are allowed again in Yellowstone Park where they were outlawed just a couple years ago. Through extensive tests and considerable costs, Oils were reformulated time and time again. It was more than just a pollution concern too,that is the easy part, engines have changed over the last few years with the addition of Power Valves for one where carbon forms very easily with mineral oil. So they had to find an oil that would not clog the Power Valves but burn "clean" and carry enough lubrication. More and more OEM's are stating that Synthetic oil must be used to maintain their warranty.
Echo, Husqvarna, Stihl, Red Max and the rest do not make their oils. Most go out for bid usually every 1-3 years and some recommend a certain brand if not their own because they get paid for advertising. There are specs on all oils as you know, but what you may not know is, oil such as you buy for your vehicles, only 1 in 5 even meet what it says on the label.
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mml4
 
Snow is good,
Deep snow is better!
Joined: Dec 31, 2003
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Re: Which 2-cycle oil for Toro snow blower.
Reply #13 Feb 16, 2006 7:18 pm |
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Hi Guys! I spoke to a tech at Kioritz which is a company that supplies a large # of two stroke engines to the OPE manufacturers. My initial question to him regarded using a 50:1 mix in a back pack Kioritz powered blower that called for 32:1. He said the deciding factor was weather the engine had a hard chrome surfaced bore.If yes 50:1 with the newer oils such as Echo Power Blend would be no problem.If not then going to anything higher than 50:1 would not be a good idea.The blower in question was a Craftsman made for Sears by Echo. I got the same story from the tech dept. at Stihl re:my chain saw. It appears that the cylinder wall surface in a two stroke has a lot to do with the oil requirement. Marc
SnapperV210P,Toro22177,TroyBilt42010Snowthrower,Craftsman Shredder,American Turbo Pressure Washer HondaGX200,Stihl011Saw,EchoPas260Trimmer Edger,EchoPB602Blower,EchoHCR150Hedge Clipper
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mml4
Snow is good,
Deep snow is better!
Joined: Dec 31, 2003
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Re: Which 2-cycle oil for Toro snow blower.
Reply #14 Feb 16, 2006 7:21 pm |
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My Bad !! Should say going to anything higher than 32:1 would be a no no !! Sorry,Marc
SnapperV210P,Toro22177,TroyBilt42010Snowthrower,Craftsman Shredder,American Turbo Pressure Washer HondaGX200,Stihl011Saw,EchoPas260Trimmer Edger,EchoPB602Blower,EchoHCR150Hedge Clipper
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mml4
Snow is good,
Deep snow is better!
Joined: Dec 31, 2003
Points: 544
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Re: Which 2-cycle oil for Toro snow blower.
Reply #15 Feb 16, 2006 7:25 pm |
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This site needs an edit button!!!!
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