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"Mobil 1 Extended Performance

You've never seen an oil like this before. Mobil 1® Extended Performance is a new high-endurance motor oil with 36 percent more anti-wear additives and 37 percent more cleaning agents than current Mobil 1 formulations. It is a fully synthetic formulation that helps extend engine life, reduce oil breakdown and minimize engine wear -- all while helping to keep your engine clean. Improvements that add up to exceptional protection for 15,000 miles. Guaranteed. " ...from mobiloil.com

Mobil 1 Extended Performance

Dave...

Marshall wrote:

Marshall no one ever said Honda was in the Oil manufacturing bussiness,

The just KNOW WHAT TO TELL THE OIL MANUFACTURE WHAT THEY WANT IN THERE OIL UNDER THERE LABLE (Mobil)

Just like there New Blue coolant but thats another story.

TheBuck101 wrote: I understand that.

But to read Honda's info you posted it reads as if it is "Honda oil", which it clearly is not. Matter of fact, I would be willing to bet it's strait Mobil 1, at least until I see something that shows me what they have done different for Honda that they don't do for their own labels.

For example, these features/benefits they list below, from above, are Mobil 1 features and benefits.

It also provides these added benefits:
• Improved oxidation resistance (reduced
thickening of the oil)
• Improved deposit protection and better wear
protection
• Better low-temperature performance over the
life of the oil
• Environmental protection by extending the life
of emissions systems

I wasn't arguing with you Buck, just pointing out that Honda doesn't make it.

You might find this Oil Filter Comparison interesting . You can see from this that many brands of filters are on the market but there are only a few manufacturers. Some are built to a specification, and others are just rebranded.  I've been using Purolator Pure One filters in all our vehicle for several years after I looked into it.

The same is true for many lubricants. For example, Evinrude and Yamaha two stroke oils are made by the same manufacturer - Citgo. The base oil is the same, but the additive packages differ substantially.

Yamaha also sells a product call Ring Free, which is a fuel additive to minimize ring sticking with modern fuels. Might be worth it for the Lawn Boy contingent.  Techron is the Chevron fuel additive product - some say it's the same stuff.

Hey Buck, if I came across strong or something I didn't mean to. 2:00am posting is something I probably should avoid. I learn more from you guys than I can tell you. Now just to remember it all.    



"Techron is the Chevron fuel additive product"

Garandman, the service techs at more than one car dealership have told me they also make the best injection cleaner.

Hastings made nice filters. Don't know if they still do.

BTW supposedly Honda oil filters, formerly made by  Toyo Roki are now made by Honeywell in Canada. Honeywell is famous as the manufacturer of Fram oil filters, generally considered the poorest on the market.

Fram oil filters are by far the worst out there, and they are under the allied signal corporation.  Amazing how a once excellent manufacturer has gone to crap with their prodcut.  The Honda oil filter is a quality prodcut.  Cut one open and you can see the filter surface area and the other good features of their filters.

uc113 wrote:
Its funny, but I didn't realize until a couple of years ago that Fram made such crappy filters. I've seen quite a few different reports (some formal, some not so) comparing filters and it is pretty universally accepted that they make some of the cheapest. Now I know.....

Until then I used them 95% of the time with apparently medicore results.............
'89 C1500 175,000miles and still going strong
'94 K2500 Turbo Diesel  375,000miles (still running strong when I sold it)
'90 Celica 272,000 and motor still solid at trade in
'96 Blazer 180,000 and motor still strong at trade

I must have been lucky.......(I am pretty religious on maintenance)

I DON'T use them anymore because of what I have read, and after you cut one open and then do the same to a NAPA gold or a Purolator One or a OEM filte, Stevie Wonder can see the difference.........

For 3 or 4 bucks difference in price it's just not worth the risk to me.