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Re: New 4 Stroke Toro Powerlite
#1   Nov 18, 2009 9:07 am
http://www.speedwaysales.com/toro-powerlite-snowthrower-p-134.html?osCsid=dfbeabc1dec5335565c95882463e2d40

Do yourself the favor and save the $10 for a proven design. It'll also be more powerful and lighter.
Re: is a toro r-tek a briggs?
#2   Nov 13, 2009 9:31 am
As stated above - The R*Tek IS a briggs motor, but not designed by briggs.

Lawnboy designed it as the Duraforce. (this is good - Lawn Boy's entire history is based on designing 2 stroke engines for OPE and Marine use)

Toro bought Lawnboy.

Toro took the motor and renamed the piston-ported version of it (used in snowblowers) the R*Tek (stands for RELIABLE TECHNOLOGY).

Toro sold the engine design/rights to Briggs, who now manufactures it.

You'll also quickly find out that the ratings on your new snowblower are extremely conservative. The R*Tek makes an easy 7hp (or more) and that blower will throw more than 1700lbs/minute.
Re: Electric chute control concerns (and introduction)
#3   Oct 15, 2009 10:21 pm
Snowgo - I think you'll be OK with the electric chute rotation.  When working, it should work better and faster than a hand crank.  OF course your concern is a valid one should it break (I have no experience with the electric units)  The Quick Stick on the Toro is a nice feature if speed and precision is your desire with chute angle/rotation.  The Toro, Simplicity, Snapper, and Ariens are all equivalent for the most part in quality and capability within a given size range.
Re: SNOWBLOWER Simplicity 522E or Honda HS520C
#4   Oct 11, 2009 7:25 pm
The Toro 221 series (and the 210) are 2 strokes.  They are VERY underrated at 6.5hp, lightweight, reliable, and very easy to start.  The Toro 421, Snapper, and Honda are 4 strokes that are marketed as superior but in reality are more complex, heavier, weaker, and require regular oil changes.  The common knock against 2 strokes is the "messy mixing of oil and gas"- this is a complete load of crap.  If you can make a cup of tea, coffee, or lemonade, then you can mix oil and gas.  You buy a gallon of gas, then dump the pre-measured bottle of 2 stroke oil (included with the snowblower and available at any hardware store, home depot, lowes, etc.) into the gallon of gas.  Done.  MUCH easier than changing the oil in your 4 stroke motor each season.

When it comes to single stage snowblowers, I'm partial to 2 strokes and also to the Toro auger design.  I've run the Honda 520 quite a bit, but never the snapper (though I used an old MTD that had the same auger design and it isn't very good).  In back to back comparisons, the Toro 2 stroke out threw the Honda handily.  I've never run the Toro 4 stroke, but with the way the 2 stroke performs I can't see a need to.
Re: SNOWBLOWER Simplicity 522E or Honda HS520C
#5   Oct 9, 2009 6:07 pm
aa335 wrote:
Have you looked at or considered a Toro 221QR?  Or you only want a single stage with a 4-stroke engine?
I'd also recommend looking at the 221 Toro.  I'm not hesitant to say it is far and away the best single stage snowblower currently on the market.  Its worth a look.  The Toro auger/housing design throws snow incredibly well.  If you insist on 4 stroke (aka insisting on less power, more weight, and more maintenance) then check out the 421 Toro. 
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