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Re: Central Vacuum Systems
#1 Nov 16, 2009 7:26 pm |
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What is the best filtration, in your estimation? True Cyclonic/ Vacu Flo says there 'no loading' fans will hold up over the long haul, competitors disagree
MD produces only 'bag on top' designs, with disposable liners
Others have filtered cyclonics some, like Zenex, claim there is no need to touch or replace their filter-ever
Central Vac (brand) has exterior mounted motors with disposable bags
Any thoughts on Aqua-Air and/or Drain Vac systems?
Husky (presumably derived from Husqvarna) and Nilfisk offer central systems, too
Some dealers say the square footage to be cleaned should be doubled to insure adequate suction/airflow as the system ages, some say there's no such thing as too much power.
What about tubing? All the OEM mfg are against using sched 40 PVC and insist of CVS pipe. The FlowMax Gold with the bell ends looks like a great way to go.
The hose and storing it? Hide-A -Hose? The in wall cavity hose reel? MD's segmented concept? Beam's new telescopic hose? Maybe the easiest solution is to install a few more inlets and just use a 25ft hose?
Finally, what about the Turbo Cat? There strong opinions on both sides as to whether it really will function as well as an electric power brush.
So, how would you help someone navigate all the choices to select a system for their needs? Hi Trebor, I see things this way, The customer is coming into your place of business looking for your reccomendations. No need to complicate things, Ask a few key questions ,new or existing construction, how many levels in the home, have good carpeting[how many people will admit they have cheap carpets???. What is the square footage Do you want a set up that really cleans or do you just want it to make noise, The responses are very funny sometimes.A lot of sales are made when people see a lot of action going on in your store, Its all psycological, who wants to buy from someone that looks like their going under or are more interested in eating lunch than waiting on the customers.Just give them their moneys worth and back it up with oustanding service.. MOLE
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Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
#2 Nov 6, 2009 7:21 am |
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Hello MOLE: I've always said if Consumer Reports really wants to get it right, it should factor into its vacuum reliability data survey information received from independent vacuum cleaner store owners and operators who repair vacuums. Carmine D. Hello Carmine, I agree with you, All macines have their own little quirks if they consulted the real industry pros they probaly would have no reliability ratings at all. It would go something like this,Orecks work and clean great till the belts stretch and the brush stops spinning ,although it still picks up well on hardwood floors,So we will give it a excellent on bare floors but unaceptabe for carpets.WHAT GIVES? Kirby great open area carpet vacuums but real customers hate using them,so we will give them excellent for durability.See where this is going. Raibow a real hightech airpollution device,but only those with a mechanical engineering background can use it.We will give it a fair rating. Cental vacuums THE HOSE IS TOO LONG,people hate taking the hose out of the closet,we will give it an excellent for longevity, Dyson hey what can we say due to the adverising and promotion well give it an excellent rating, Would we actually use one here at CR ? Sorry we cant answer that question, we dont want to piss off the Brits. MOLE
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Re: Jimmy Dyson does try hard . . .
#3 Nov 6, 2009 6:38 am |
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Trust me these reliability ratings are B.S. Having serviced every vacuum cleaner known to mankind, New or old American iron Euro plastic, orient express almost throw aways.
I have a kirby legend 2 small head, a D80 , that are trailer queens They are in mint condition and work propely, would that figure into cr ratings if i gave them that data on their surveys?
Because the BOZOS at Cr are clueless about what these models are or their ages.
Whats to say that the Dyson propaganda machine has not infiltrated CR with bogus surveys like they baraged the msn, and internet review sites.Like i said its all B.S.
O.K. dib show me what you got to rebuke my statements.
B.T.W its nice to see gasko on the forum again,at least he's got a clue on whats really going on with dyson.
REGARDS
MOLE
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Re: New Electrolux
#4 Oct 25, 2009 11:39 am |
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Hi Big V If you bought a silverardo in 1974, you must of bought a prototype, It was not released till 1982. Maybe you bought a SUPER J also a great machine,i liked the lightning bolts on the bags,they were yellow in color,B.T.W. theres a problem on the blue bags also its with the couplings.SOMETHINGS GOT TO BE DONE, Also its not a bad idea to staple the pleat At the bottom of the bag. KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED, I have also replaced many late model motors because of bag breakage and dirt seepage into the fans, The new vortec style motors are not as rugged as the older motors, the rpms are into orbit and are very dust and dirt sensitive,unlike the old workhorse motors. I believe the ddm motor also has this same problem. regards MOLE |
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Re: New Electrolux
#5 Oct 25, 2009 7:43 am |
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What your seeing is the end result of outsourcing. When corporate decided to sell off the machines and tooling to eureka aka electrolux, They take what they get from china and have to live with it,UNTIL THE CONTRACT EXPIRES
This has been going on for a long time , and now that the factory is retooled the quality control is being handled again in house.
The last good bag was the grey silveado bags................
mole
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